Comments on: The Future We Simulate Is The One We Create https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/06/the-future-we-simulate-is-the-one-we-create/ In-depth coverage of high-end computing at large enterprises, supercomputing centers, hyperscale data centers, and public clouds. Mon, 22 Jan 2024 14:50:38 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: Joseph Pareti https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/06/the-future-we-simulate-is-the-one-we-create/#comment-218713 Wed, 10 Jan 2024 10:44:33 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143468#comment-218713 perhaps the quantum computer will arrive before the zetta computer, and until them the big cloud providers lead the race in terms of flops and dollars

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By: Cristian Vasile https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/06/the-future-we-simulate-is-the-one-we-create/#comment-218675 Tue, 09 Jan 2024 12:08:23 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143468#comment-218675 In reply to Timothy Prickett Morgan.

All kidding aside, a government entity, as you described, could lease space in the data centers of large FAANGs on US mainland and place a few racks in there to do distributed computing folding@home style.

A huge distributed HPC machine has some important advantages:
//1 can be designed and manufactured in a short time
//2 it can use parts from different suppliers
//3 each computing unit can have a different hardware architecture (CPUs, GPUs, ASICs, FPGAs, memory, storage etc.)
//4 can be upgraded in a continuous loop without shutting down the whole machine.
//5 can start small, with a small budget and grow organically, trying to adapt to new requirements as they arise.

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By: Eric Olson https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/06/the-future-we-simulate-is-the-one-we-create/#comment-218662 Tue, 09 Jan 2024 04:33:26 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143468#comment-218662 In response to a reinvigorated BOINC, it would be interesting if a disaggregated AI training algorithm insensitive to network bandwidth and latency could be developed that worked on a distributed grid of home computers.

Although I don’t have the insight to know why current training techniques need so much bandwidth and memory, it seems to me that it might be possible to train portions of a larger neutral network independently. In fact, I recall attending a thesis defense that touched on such things last year.

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/06/the-future-we-simulate-is-the-one-we-create/#comment-218657 Tue, 09 Jan 2024 02:15:47 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143468#comment-218657 In reply to Jeff Hummel.

Why not?

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By: Jeff Hummel https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/06/the-future-we-simulate-is-the-one-we-create/#comment-218643 Mon, 08 Jan 2024 18:15:22 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143468#comment-218643 Do we need to reinvigorate the use of BOINC (or a similar framework) to solve the real-world problems using everybody’s idle system at home?

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By: Mehdi Zoghlami https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/06/the-future-we-simulate-is-the-one-we-create/#comment-218640 Mon, 08 Jan 2024 17:38:39 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143468#comment-218640 In reply to Timothy Prickett Morgan.

And use Coca-Cooling systems to keep them from overheating.

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By: Lance Legel https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/06/the-future-we-simulate-is-the-one-we-create/#comment-218612 Mon, 08 Jan 2024 01:42:06 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143468#comment-218612 Very inspirational to at least one young former NASA physicist-turned-large scale A.I. developer…

100% agreed on the core argument: public investment in supercomputing (and the simulation capabilities that brings, for solving the world’s hardest problems) can and should be multiplied by orders of magnitude.

There is a very large (and literally “powerful”) community of scientists/engineers/… rooted in the tech startup world, that you may know of called HackerNews, who I think will love to read this highly original, provocative, and visionary article. I’ve posted this article there, if you upvote it, then it’s more likely that hundreds of others will see this, and a very interesting discussion will follow: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38907195

By the way, you can thank Google’s Discover algorithm for having recommended this article to me, I guess with the indexing on my end of working closely now with the University of Florida’s HiPerGator supercomputer.

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By: Hubert https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/06/the-future-we-simulate-is-the-one-we-create/#comment-218591 Sun, 07 Jan 2024 15:46:09 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143468#comment-218591 A nicely inspirational article for the start of the new year. Here’s to hoping we clear major milestones on the TNP list of grand challenge problems in 2024! It’ll be great to see that we clear the 1 EF/s mark more decisively this year, with El Capitan, and Aurora, and Jupiter (maybe Venado too, not sure of its expected perf. though) — a slightly longer wait than expected since Frontier’s debut 18 months ago.

One thing to remember about simulating physical problems in 3-D is that each time we improve spatial resolution (uniformly) by a factor of 2, say in the x, y, and z directions, we need 2x2x2 = 8 times more nodes (simultaneous equations to solve), and possibly twice as many time steps as well (to maintain stability and accuracy constraints). So, improving resolution by a factor of 10x needs essentially 10,000 times the computational power of what is currently available, possibly 10 ZettaFlops/s. We’ll want to be sure to invest in that goal, especially now that the ExaFlop is “more common” and better understood, including leveraging MxP and/or specialized computational stencils (https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/04/25/oil-and-gas-industry-to-get-its-own-stencil-tensor-accelerator/).

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/06/the-future-we-simulate-is-the-one-we-create/#comment-218585 Sun, 07 Jan 2024 13:43:46 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143468#comment-218585 In reply to Cristian Vasile.

I have long joked that every grill in every fast food restaurant should be powered by a supercomputer. These could be home heating units, too!

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By: Eric Olson https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/01/06/the-future-we-simulate-is-the-one-we-create/#comment-218580 Sun, 07 Jan 2024 07:46:42 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=143468#comment-218580 My opinion is supercomputing has already changed the world in significant ways. It’s just that–like most science–people don’t think about and don’t understand where all the changes came from and how. I certainly don’t, but the changes are astonishing.

On the other hand, it looks like the nuclear test ban treaty, which motivated the construction of a number of the largest supercomputers, may be about over, as it’s not really a treaty if only one side abides by it.

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